Your Toxic Workplace Is Your Divorce in Disguise 🔥 || Don't Pick the Scab Podcast #264 || David and Rachel
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Your Toxic Workplace Is Your Divorce in Disguise 🔥 || Don't Pick the Scab Podcast #264 || David and Rachel

🔥 Is your toxic workplace secretly training you to survive your divorce? In this episode of the Don't Pick the Scab Podcast, David and Rachel break down the hilarious — and painfully accurate — similarities between surviving a toxic job and recovering from divorce. If you're a man over 40 rebuilding your life after divorce, this episode is your permission slip to laugh, heal, and stop picking the scab. 💪

☢️ We call it the Chernobyl Effect: a toxic workplace is a slow-building nuclear disaster, and so is a bad marriage. Eventually it implodes — and everyone finally realizes the good people who left were NEVER the problem. Sound familiar?


🎭 In this episode, we introduce the Workplace Characters — and their divorce equivalents:

👉 Denise – Doesn't do her job but has ALL the opinions about how things should be divided 🙄

👉 Gina – Knows everything about your divorce… and gets every single detail wrong 🗣️

👉 Susan – Turns every small issue into a five-alarm emotional emergency 🚨

👉 Linda – Creates the conflict, then wants to discuss YOUR tone 🎤 👉 Lucy – Shows up late to mediation with no documents… and needs a meeting about the meeting ⏰

👉 Karen – Threatens to call the attorneys, the judge, HR… possibly the United Nations 📞

👉 Tammy – "I never said that!" (Good thing you documented EVERYTHING) 📝

👉 Nancy – Beating a dead horse for six months over a $47 reimbursement 🐴

👉 Peter – "Not my problem." (Until his desk catches fire) 🔥

👉 Rachel the Boss – Shows up, documents, communicates, sets boundaries, and protects her peace 👑


💡 Key takeaways for your divorce recovery:

✅ Document EVERYTHING — email, parenting apps, voice recordings. Never rely on verbal agreements with a high-conflict ex.

✅ Never delete your chat history — it protects you when the gaslighting starts.

✅ Set boundaries with toxic people at work AND at home. "I will no longer be accommodating people who aren't willing to accommodate."

✅ Create NEW traditions after divorce — Mexican food on Christmas Eve, Thanksgiving morning breakfast with the kids, whatever heals YOUR family. 🎄🌮

✅ Communication and boundaries are the two pillars of surviving a narcissistic ex — and a toxic boss.


Whether you're dealing with a narcissistic coworker, a high-conflict co-parent, or both — this episode will remind you that you're not crazy, you're not alone, and you WILL get through it. 🙌


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💬 CALL TO ACTION: Which character is YOUR ex — Denise, Linda, Karen, or Tammy? Or better yet… which character were YOU?

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[00:00:00] Welcome everybody out there to The Divorce Devil Podcast episode 264. It's been a while, man. We are actually still alive and the life goes on. I'm going to cut it down a little bit. Oh yeah, move in, surgery, summer. It was freaking hot, baby. It was hot. And it's still stupid hot. We got fall for two days. What do they call that? They call that Indian summer. So yeah, David and Rachel on the mic, we're back. Today we're talking

[00:00:29] We're comparing workplace carnage to divorce. Divorce recovery. Dumpster fire. Dumpster fire. Tuxic workplace. Toxic workplace. That's it. It's equivalent to a divorce and how there are similarities. And if you can get through a toxic workplace and survive, how you can get through a divorce. So we want to call it Chernobyl. Yeah. Workplace. Yeah. Yeah. That nuclear blast. Yeah, there's. There's. At some point, it shall implode.

[00:00:59] And then upper management will know that the good people who left. Shouldn't have left. Or your spouse was nice and she shouldn't have left or he should have left. Or that you weren't the problem and all the shit that your ex said about you wasn't true. Or that you said about your ex probably was stretched. So even though we're going to fly by sea of our pants, we're going to start this first page and I'm going to, I'm going to do the peeps and you'll do what they do.

[00:01:25] A lot of these, I, so I love me some chat GPT or some Google Gemini. I just use it very simply because that's just how I live my life. Right. So I want it to be dumbed down for me to understand. So when I do things, I give things, characters, personalities, I give them a Zodiac sign, like all the things. So my thing was basically give workplace character names. Of what their job is and then how it relates to a divorce. And so this one was really fun.

[00:01:55] Rachel's favorite chat GPT prompt is give me some stuff. Give me some. Actually, my first prompt is back to last human. Because a lot of times the chat GPT tells me things. I'm like, I'm sorry. Can you dumb that down? Can you. Ready? Here we go. These are the workplace characters in the workplace.

[00:02:24] And these people can transition into your friends at divorce. You should be that character and new job and I'll do the divorce equivalent. And maybe you're that character. I feel like that. No, not you. The listener. I feel like going through this journey for as long as we have, there's a lot of times I'm like, God damn it. I was the problem. But there's a lot of times. I've never felt that way. I've never felt that way. I've been lucky. When I know I'm right and I'm like, I don't understand why other people don't see it. Like, how do you not see the same thing I see?

[00:02:54] Because they're dumb. Okay. I'm just so super small. Here we go. Here we go. Go. The toxic workplace Chernobyl. The workplace character is Dennis. Doesn't do. Dennis. Denise. It's a girl. It's spelled. Denise. Denise. Doesn't do her job. Somehow she's always unavailable when actual work needs to happen.

[00:03:17] So how this is equivalent to divorce is the spouse who contributes nothing but suddenly has a lot of opinions about how everything should be divided or done. Or, hey, how come the dishes aren't done but yet never helps to do the dishes but continually piles up the sink. That's an example. What about Hina? Gina. Hina. Gossip but makes it wrong. Yeah. Has heard everything, knows nothing, and fills in the blanks.

[00:03:44] So how this is a divorce equivalent is the family or friend member, family or friend who has very accurate version of the divorce despite not being married to that person, you or your ex. So they know everything about it but they're not very accurate on all the things that happen. So they're almost like gaslighting. Yeah. Yeah. So now there's gossip at school, like at my school, and say you heard the last end of it. It's like walking into a middle of a conversation like, okay, I don't know all the context.

[00:04:13] Whatever you said sounds inappropriate. But I heard this. But I'm going to go tell everybody what I heard and you have no idea what's actually happening. What about Susan? She sucks the suck. Whatever happens, she somehow makes it worse. Or I also think this is the same as no matter what happens, it always happens worse to that person. If we all are in a shit show together, it's worse for me because no, Susan, everybody's in the dumpster.

[00:04:41] You're just on, you're just, you're not sharing the water with anybody. It's fine. Yeah. So whatever happens, it's always, and so how this is in divorce, the person who turns every simple divorce issue into a five alarm emergency, emotional emergency. If you have five people out but only two subs, all of a sudden the house, the building is burning down. No, we just got to call some subs or we got to ask people to help out or who's able to step into a classroom for a couple minutes or whatever.

[00:05:10] Every day is not a dumpster fire. Yeah, and it's not, you know, okay, three kids are in the office at the same time and all their computers are broken and we're doing testing and blah, blah, blah. Okay, yes, it's important, but the world will not end if these kids' computers don't work. We can do it later or tomorrow. What about Linda? Why are you talking to me like that? Did you ever hear a Linda cupcake? Do you know that meme? Linda, listen. Listen, Linda. Yeah, listen, yes.

[00:05:39] Have a cupcake at Pau Pau's. This is what I think when people are like, why are you talking to me like that? Or that happens so much as adults in an elementary school, I feel like. But not your school. I'm sorry. Other schools. No, my school. It's perfect. Every school I've ever been in. No, no, your school's perfect. Okay. Yeah, let's go with that. Okay, you live that life. Okay, I'm gangster today. Back to Linda. So why are you talking to me like that? I'm sorry. We're both adults.

[00:06:08] I'm trying to understand what you're asking me, but your request is ridiculous. So I don't know how to help you with your ridiculousness. Linda, you got pissed. Linda, let's listen. I'm going to have a cupcake while you figure out what's happening over here. And so how that is, say something's outrageous then becomes offended by your response. You say something, all the pets' heads are falling off and you're like, I'm sorry, we don't have no pets. And then they get mad that you were sarcastic. I'm like, we don't have pets here either.

[00:06:33] And how that is related to divorce is the person who creates the conflict and then wants everyone to discuss your tone. I picture this like a narcissist. It's like for repeated time after time, you're never wrong. It's someone else's fault. Why did you make me act like that? I'm sorry. I'm going to call you out on your bullshit because no one else has. And I'm setting the tone to protect myself from your bullshit. So I'm not going to let you talk to me the way you think you can talk to everybody else.

[00:07:03] I'm not going to let you affect my well-being or my daily life. I will not allow your inability to realize that you're a narcissist to affect me. Or someone that always has an excuse for everything that they've done. And then it seems, hey, the definition of insanity is repeating the same fucking thing every time. And you just keep repeating the same thing with different people. I'm sorry. I read your book already. The ending is stupid. You cause all the problems.

[00:07:34] Next character. Hang on, Lucy. Lucy, hang on. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That hit my building, but nobody knows about it. And the news doesn't know because I made it up. She late like a mug, man. She stay late. No, she don't stay late. She leaves early, but she always gets in late. And what's that famous saying that the old timers like yourself say? If you're on time, you're late. If you're late, you're dead. You better be dead. Yeah. Better be dead.

[00:08:03] It's early is on time is late and late. You better be dead. Yeah. You're dead. Again, what we just said never prepares. Somehow it's someone else. So Lucy's always late. Plus she's always taking the football from Charlie Brown. Yeah. She's me. Shows up late to mediation. Doesn't have a document. And needs another meeting to have another meeting. To discuss having another meeting is how it is. Oh my God. This is fun. I forgot that they have to pay child support because it wasn't in the meeting that they

[00:08:33] forgot to attend because they were late. Yeah. She's late. I'm late for a very important day. Oh, this is, I need you to give me a character accent, make it white girl as you can. For the next one? For the next one? With the K plus eight hair view. Let's go. Let me explain something. So I play pickleball and I play pickleball down at some of the public courses down in Colorado Springs, down by the river. And there's a couple of Karens and I call them Karen.

[00:09:03] They all want, always want to dispute the line calls. The line calls. So I call them pickleball Karens. And I told my wife, I was going to go get a shirt made. The front was going to say, don't be a Karen. And the back was going to be, unless your name is Karen. But she won't let me because she doesn't want me to end up in the back of a police car. But anyway. Or a pig farm, just the bones. I love my Karens. Dave, is that your real name, Dave? Nope. Dave. My name is Steve.

[00:09:32] Dave, I love you because you can put two sentences together. Dave. Dave, I love you. Dave, I love you. Karen is, I need a manager because I saw something. Escalates everything. Yep. Is always telling on people for the shit they actually do as well. But until they get caught, everybody else has done it and not them. They need to get a refund because it wasn't exactly what they wanted. But they opened it and used it for two and a half years. But they want to return it. And so now they need a Karen.

[00:10:01] I've got a story. Yeah. And this is on the same lines. And this is funny as shit. So my mom, probably not a Karen, but kind of Karen qualities. So my kids were little and we were at one of the steak places up north on Academy. And my mom was in town. No, don't tell me. Was it a food return? No. God damn it. Almost. I'll know better. So my mom was there and the kids were little and my mother-in-law was there. So both mother grandmas were there.

[00:10:31] Lord Jesus. So both grandmas were there. And so my mother and my mother-in-law ordered the same steak. Thank you. The same steak. The whole time they're eating. And interesting enough, my mother-in-law's name is Karen. Karen, it gets better. She goes, so my mom asked Karen, said, Karen, is your steak tough? No, Mildred, my steak is fine. Mine's kind of tough.

[00:11:00] Half hour later, Karen, was your steak tough? She goes, no, Mildred, it was fine. My mom complains to the manager, get the steak for free. Eat the whole damn steak. Eats the whole damn steak and gets the steak conked. Okay, because I thought someone complained and then all y'all's food is, that was the word? All y'all's food? All y'all's food. Food is spitting, regrinding, chewed up like a baby bird, poor baby bird.

[00:11:29] So yeah, that's a definite Karen move. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, my mother-in-law was like that. It wasn't to my, it wasn't to the exact time it was the last time I was here. It was great. So this time wasn't great. So I didn't get great service. So could you take it back and give me a new one? But you said she ate all the whole thing and whatever. Whole thing. Yeah, whole thingy. I can't believe he ate the whole thing. So the Karen, how it is related in divorce equivalent is, threatens for attorneys, supervisors,

[00:11:57] judges, HR, governor, possibly United Nations, world and all- Go to the top. I mean, all- Everybody's going to jail. The power? What has happened over here? Everybody's going to jail. President, United Nations, the moon, everybody. Call the Australian mothership. Yes. Call Santa. Yep. We want them all in this divorce. Jesus. Oh gosh, please. We need some Jesus. Yep. All right. Oh, are you ready to go for another one? Ready. Oh, this is my mom's name. We got Peppermint Patty.

[00:12:26] That's not how we've always done it. Lives entirely in the past. Yep. But how it is for divorces. But we've always done Christmas that way. We need to have it at your house. We've always had blah, blah, blah. We just, we need to do it at my house. It's like, you don't do it at my house. You don't love me. And I hate everybody you're all over with. I got a story. David is false. And I told you this one before. Yeah. So that first Thanksgiving. Yeah. Where I tried to make it real. Yeah. And I did the X over.

[00:12:55] And I cooked my turkey first time. I didn't know there were two holes in the turkey, top and bottom. So I got the neck, but I didn't get the giblets. So by the time I cooked it, that wax paper kind of burns and it smells pretty good. But anyway, but just carve that out. So we have Thanksgiving and everybody's fine. And my ex doesn't help me clean up. And at that moment, I realized that Patty needed to die.

[00:13:27] And never again did I do anything with all this together. Yeah. That was a learning lesson. Yeah. But it's like. What'd you learn? And I think depending on how long you've been married to, I think it's a little different. Like over 24 years of we were married. And so tradition started to become whoever's houses we lived close, which was my mother-in-law. So it was every single fucking year we had to be Christmas Eve at my mother-in-law's house. And we had to bring, everybody had the thing that they had to bring.

[00:13:57] But if we asked if we can bring one of our family bowls, sure, she'd hide it in the closet. Or we forget about it. Or it'd be in the trash. And then when we moved here, we were here. I've been here almost 11 years. When we first moved here and she came to visit for every fucking month, we had Thanksgiving here. And my dad used to make this like three meat stuffing. It was always like a wild game of some sort.

[00:14:26] Pork and like burger, like something. But that wild thing, the wild game was either something he got or my son had gotten. Or like someone had gotten special. So it was always a different flavor. But generally like it was either deer or elk or something. And so when we got here, you could get like buffalo and all the things. So it was like the one year. I'm like, okay, the first year here, I'm going to have all my new traditions, all the things.

[00:14:55] And I made this beautiful stuffing like in my new house up in Larkspur so we could have a whole bunch of people. It was great. She hid my stuffing in the back of the pantry. And the next day, I was like, what smells in here? Damn. Because it wasn't refrigerated, right? So now it's been like meat that's been sitting out. Yes, it was cooked. So you can't use it. I cooked it and everything.

[00:15:22] I cooked it and I put it in like the butler pantry area to cool down. She grabbed that shit and put it away because she had her stuffing that she had made. And I'm like, fucking bitch. Took my stuffing in my house. That's a boss move. And hit it. That's a boss. That's better. So this next morning before I found the stuffing, because it's now Friday, right? I'm up before everybody just like trying to get the trash out because they were going to have trash delivery.

[00:15:49] Like, because it was usually the day before Thanksgiving was a Wednesday. And so they were going to do it on the Friday. So I'm like, let me get all the trash out. There's a bunch of people, blah, blah, blah. That's just going to stink. Yeah. So I got, I was getting up in the morning. I had all these, I had so many things in my mouth, even though the bag of the trash in my mouth going, okay, let me get this all out at once. Because I'm a one trip wonder. So I'm, we had let them stay in our master bedroom and all stuff, which was downstairs. It was on the main floor.

[00:16:15] And I'm literally walking out the garage door and she comes out, she goes, do you want some pie? And I'm like, what? She goes, I want pie. And I'm like, so I have to put everything down. I was like, what do you want? She's like, I want pie. And I was like, okay, there's pie in the refrigerator. You're not going to get your guests that. And I was like, like serve them. Get her pie. Server. Like sir, get her pie. So the pie is in the refrigerator. The pie is in the refrigerator. On the opposite end of the house that I'm at. I was like, if you want pie, you can have pie.

[00:16:45] And so Pop-Pop at the time was sitting on the couch because he had gotten up early, must have heard me sitting on the couch watching whatever he's watching. Football, I don't know, the day after Thanksgiving, college ball or whatever it is. And she goes, Pop-Pop, you want pie, don't you? He goes, I don't care. And she goes, and Pop wants pie. And I was like. But you got punked. I was like, get the fuck out of my house. Did you get the pie? No. I said, you can get your own damn pie or you can get the hell out. I'm so proud of you right now. I'm crying.

[00:17:14] I was like, oh, you can get out. And so we had a huge fight. I kicked her out of the house. I said, either she goes or I burn the place down. Get her out. I'm done. All day she was telling me what to do, where to go. We had to buy an extra special turkey breast for her. Like all this fucking shit. I'm like, this is my house by myself, my new house. And so that turned into why you here go. I need you to leave. This is not your space. And then it turned into a, I'm the problem. I always met. I'm always causing problems for her.

[00:17:43] I don't do anything. She asked all this stuff. So again, if you are that mother-in-law, knock it the fuck off. Your daughter-in-law does not deserve you to be like that. Anyway, I'd say rest in peace. But okay, we're going to move on. The doorbell's ringing and David just abandoned me. So it's fine. So just remember who your favorite podcaster is. So then we have, I didn't say that. Who's that? I didn't say that. Stacey absolutely said it five minutes ago, but there was no witnesses. So she thinks that no one heard it except for you.

[00:18:13] And so how it's equivalent for divorce is I never agreed to that. Thankfully you have email to back up your stuff. I think where this falls into play is unless you have it documented on like a parent square or you do everything in writing, if you just call them, unless you're really going to go to the point of having like your phone records released, which is absolutely a pain in the butt, but you can do it. Write everything down.

[00:18:39] Make sure that you're getting the documentation or you can record your phone call in Colorado. One person, you has to say, okay, I want to record something because I don't feel like it's being said accurately, or this is a one. One trick pony? One side record state. I don't know what it's called, but if I decide I want to record you without. Oh, you can record. Yeah. Because. So. We're on Tammy.

[00:19:07] So let's go back to Patty for a second. Oh, that was gone. Hi. Let's get people some hopes. So what have you done in your divorce recovery? Yes. What have you done for your divorce recovery with new traditions? Tell them about your new traditions. So funny thing is when I met Lance, he was adamant about new traditions because. None. No. He basically said, here's what we do. What do you do?

[00:19:37] And I said, technically, generally New Year's Eve, I just don't give a fuck because it's been 20 some years where I had to do what someone else said. So I'm fine if we decide to have pasta on Thanksgiving, on Christmas Eve, or I'm fine if we decide to go out on Christmas Eve. A lot of people will do rent out an Airbnb, whatever it is. He's like, we're having Mexican food. And I was like, okay.

[00:20:03] And I know some of the reasons why, but we now have Mexican food on Christmas Eve. On Christmas Day, we do the traditional stuff. I still do make my stuffing. Ties are a big deal. Cinnamon rolls are a big deal in their family. And I don't have a lot of family that I would need to do the traditions for because my kids know all. I'm more of the baker tradition. We have all of our Polish cookies and our Ukrainian cookies that we do.

[00:20:30] My older son has really gotten into our Norwegian heritage. So I think this year we're going to do some of those. I love to bake and I love to decorate gingerbread houses and do all that stuff. And I make it a point to do. We did crafts all the time. My mom was a big crafter. So we'd always make an ornament for the year or my aunts would have a Christmas. So now, I have gotten Lance's family and my family together to do. We've made these little wooden ornaments that have the date on them.

[00:20:59] Or we've made little gnomes that you can use as doorstops or all these different things. And I try to do a cookie exchange and just a bunch of different things that don't have to technically be done the day of or the day before. Because we do have a lot of moving parts with kids out of state and all this stuff. And I think our biggest challenge was knowing when kids were going to be places because the communication was not always put into the atmosphere by the adults.

[00:21:27] They were allowing the kids to be like, okay, here we do what we want and where we want all the things. And when all these things don't communicate, we have a lot of issues of, I thought you were coming home this day. I thought you were going to be here. And we are very big on it. If you can't make it because you have to go to 17 other places, come the next day or come the next day. And then we have some that want to do 900 things. And if they're not there, it's a problem. So I tell you what we do is since she kept the kids during Christmas and Thanksgiving,

[00:21:56] so we still do a Thanksgiving morning breakfast. And I feel those fuckers full, man. They don't even want to eat dinner. We have six pounds of bacon and all that shit. And then Christmas Eve, we have the Uno tournament and the pizza party and the gift exchange. So we've done that since they were little. And that just continues on because it doesn't step on her toes because she can't get an attitude about it. So we've... Yeah, so people... Well, what do you think people like with us?

[00:22:26] Because the kids are older now and flights are expensive or we don't know when someone's available to come into town. We try to make any time that we're with them about them. And it doesn't have to be about anybody else. When you're there, whatever day you want to open presents, that day is Christmas. Whatever day you want to do New Year's Eve celebration, let's do it that day. You have to leave on a flight the day before New Year's Eve. We're going to celebrate at midnight this night. Like... You've been like the reed in the wind. Yeah.

[00:22:54] And I think a lot of times what it's called is stressed kids. Yeah. Or then the adults are like, you said that someone said you were going to be here. And then when you're not here, someone's mad at someone. And I'm like, and if it was... If it's my kids and my ex, we try to talk all the times. But his girlfriend's kids only come certain times. So if they're going to be available, we try to make them available. And then it's at the point now where our youngest is 15 and our oldest is almost 30.

[00:23:24] Tell us. But we need you to communicate it. Yeah. We need you to either set a boundary with us saying, hey, I will be here this time, that time. Or set a boundary with your other parent and be like, I can't do all those things because I need to do some things with us. So the two most important things are communication boundaries. Yeah. And I think those that know, those that don't know, don't need to know. And from this point on, I will be doing what I want. There you go. And if you guys can get it, you can't. We'll see you next time.

[00:23:54] Especially when my ex-husband and myself are really only worried about the youngest who doesn't really have a say, but he has a say. And the older ones know. Yeah, they're flexible, man. I'm going to get here, but I will no longer be accommodating people who aren't willing to accommodate. There you go. So that goes for my workplace. That goes for my- Ooh, expand that shit. My friend. Yeah. Wait, wait. Whatever. Yeah. Whatever. I call bullshit on that.

[00:24:23] Anyway, let's go with Tammy. I've been doing good, David. Yeah. Let's go with Tammy. We're not getting ADHD medicine speaking right now. She took it a little late today. It's fine. Tammy. Tammy. She's in love. You left us, but we can go over it. I didn't say that, Tammy. What? Huli did say it five minutes ago. Now the boss is watching. So you're saying you didn't say it. So it's my word against your word. And I know that the bosses know that I'm never- Gonna lie to them.

[00:24:51] Gonna diss, let's just say, not document where I need to document or not recall or be a historian of things because as a nurse, if I don't document it the right way, someone will figure out that I lied or flubbed it and I'm not losing my license over your petty bullshit. And I think this is with the ex, with a spouse, it's again, maybe narcissism. I didn't say that. Or they made me so mad I said that. Did I do that?

[00:25:20] Or you didn't understand what I was saying. Maybe you're not smart enough. Or- Damn. But then I never agreed to that. But you're not smart enough to read it, but you're willing to argue about it with me because you don't want to be wrong. So I think that's where Tammy's like, I didn't say that. No, you did say it. And because I've never gotten that wrong, you probably are the one that got it. So what's the divorce equivalent? Again, I never agreed to that. I didn't say I was going to pay them that much. I didn't say I was going to pick them up that time.

[00:25:49] And I said to the listeners when you weren't here, document everything. Do not make a phone call if you're in an aggressive state because we've all been there. Parent, the parent portal thingy, the text thing. They didn't have that shit when I was so old. I'm saying now, email. There are so many ways to do it. Leave a voice recording because you also can get a copy of that voice recording that you said. So your words aren't misconstrued. Never delete your chat stream. Yeah, no, because they can find that and then it makes you look bad.

[00:26:19] Do that parent app thingy, parent chat, whatever it's called. And then, who's that? Oh, sorry. Speaking of work. And so. The ears are burning. Make sure you email it or you CC the lawyer or you CC someone who needs to. Like Debbie. CC everyone. Yeah. Just make sure. And come right into Debbie. Damn. Yeah. Debbie, you said it. CC's everyone. Sends one email and copies it 47 times.

[00:26:47] That's almost like a mass gaslighting. Yeah. How is that equivalent in divorce, David? Sends every divorce communication to every family member, friend, co-worker, and possibly the neighbor. Sends it to your brother's mother's cousin. That's almost like a reverse Mrs. Kravitz. Yeah. And then it's like, I always love the ones where they send them out of context. So if I send you like, fuck off. Yeah. They don't see the whole thing. But it's, I'm saying, oh my gosh, that's so funny. Blah, blah, blah. But fuck off.

[00:27:16] That now is, I'm the asshole. But I'm okay now in this state of life being an asshole. I'm okay being an asshole. Because I've given you so many chances to prove that I was wrong about you. It's like within a couple minutes, I know who you are and it's fine because of my ADHD and my Gemini. Yes. And because of being a nurse and I can tell if you're lying or you're just an asshole. By the way. I. Yes. Go ahead. Go ahead. By the way. Yes. I'm going to say. No. Oh. I'm going to say. And let's circle back to that. Nancy.

[00:27:46] I love Nancy. Because nothing ever gets done, man. It just goes round and round. And it's the beating a dead horse. Like my dad said that all the time. You're beating a dead horse. I'm like, that just sounds terrible. But I get it. It's one thing happens at 7.05 and all fucking day someone else has to hear about it. And it's the same bullshit. And you haven't resolved it. And literally it is just. Bullshit. Make a phone call. Send an email. Talk to the person you're having a problem with.

[00:28:14] Hey, don't go and spread rumors about people when you don't know their level of crazy. Or that eventually you're going to be found out. That you're the problem. That person has never said a mean thing about you. And you just keep creating shit because you're unhappy in your life. So if you'd like to take this recording and shove it up your. Keister. Oh, see? You could have left the message too, Nancy.

[00:28:43] Six months later, you're still discussing the same $47 reimbursement for a child's hockey gear or the $9 million it costs for a tournament. The end. And. So how come there's only one guy on here? Because men don't usually. I think Logan, my 15 year old, has said this a thousand times in the car recently. He said that girls, when they fight, it's grudging.

[00:29:11] It's getting everybody you can on your side. Even if they don't want to be on your side, they just don't want to piss you off. There's some guys that do that. You're sure that mean. But there's usually one work. There's one guy. There's always one guy. And I cross it out because we have a Kevin in our family and he is amazing. So I said it was a Pam. I turned it into another lady. So we can. We can turn it into not my problem, Peter. He's. Not my problem, Peter.

[00:29:40] Kevin's been down South Colorado and had a sex change. All right. We love Kevin. Yeah. So we're never going to talk. Okay. So Pam. Peter or Peter. Hey. Peter is not my problem. Pam and Peter. And they're married. And that's funny. We love them. It's not my problem. Not my problem. Watches the dumpster fire from his desk. Never takes ownership. Yeah. Refuses responsibility until the consequences affect him until his desk. What me? Fire.

[00:30:06] And his little squishy bear that he bangs on to relieve stress is on fire. He's like, well, that's not my problem. Or I love the one where that's above my pay grade. Fucking everything's above your pay grade, Peter, because you're stupid. Or you don't get paid well. Yeah. Not my problem because they don't pay me. Okay. Okay. If you were smarter, you'd be able to level up there, Peter. But yeah, I love that. That's not my problem. That's above my pay grade. We're going to stop here.

[00:30:35] This is a half hour. Yeah. We forgot about the most important one. Which one? The last one. There's one more? It might be a little bias. Seriously? Damn. The last one, believe it or not. All of it. Oh, yeah. I don't want to be biased. The last one is Rachel. Actually does her job. Imagine that. Yeah. What is she doing? She shows up, documents, communicates, solves problems, protects people. And she has boundaries and she gives consequences.

[00:31:05] And she waits until the last possible lineage. Yes. She judged someone on their actual character. And then when she's done, she lets them have it. Very calm and very single tone response. The same one. The one who was about to throw hands. Yeah. She's going to throw hands, but she keeps her hands in her pockets because she's the one hitting you by it. She's going to be chill. She is the boss bitch. So read it when it says because it's very important. The same one.

[00:31:34] Calm, prepare, factual, increasingly wondering how everyone else survives without a spreadsheet. That is the best. What a way to end a podcast, man. That is awesome. I have the best advice. And it's usually a neutral stance trying to see the benefit of a doubt, especially as a nurse, as a spouse, as a mother, as a friend, all the things. But there's one more. There's one more. Oh, wait. David. There's one more character. His name is David. David.

[00:32:04] What's David's job? David is usually the janitor that sits back and goes, what the fuck is going on? I have to clean up that shit. Yeah. He has to clean up everyone's messes. Yeah. So David is the same, either female or male. He's the same ex, S-A-N-E, same ex that doesn't use the kids as props, doesn't use the kids as weapons. He's the good parent that tries to do the best that he can.

[00:32:33] Starts a podcast to help people. The co-host that outshines him. Yes. But he's definitely the freaking janitor just trying to clean up shit. He's like reading through people's trash. Yeah. You see that shit? This person is a bitch. They're crumbling up and putting their trash. Yeah. He got all the deets. He gets all the trash and the deets and he categorizes that shit in a pullout folder at him. He's the janitor. There's literally like a detective's board in there. It's like all lines. A bunch of pictures.

[00:33:03] He's the dexter. Oh, yeah. And then there's that yarn. He knows everybody's dark secrets. He's going to bust everybody out. He knows who the people that are hooking up. Oh, my God. Hey, everybody. That's part one. Hey, that's just part one. Okay. That's just part one. I think David's my favorite character. I don't know. Rachel's the boss bitch. I like the boss bitch. I think Rachel's come a long way. Yeah. I think Rachel has had her childhood trauma. Oh, yeah.

[00:33:31] She's a narcissistic mom, a bipolar mom. And then in turn has had to deal with other people who are bipolar and narcissistic and has to try to negate the path that's not a violent one. But violence is always good. It's good. Sorry. Sometimes my thoughts come out of what I meant. But everybody out there, we want to wish you guys a good day. But I hope you enjoyed this. It's almost like a melodrama. Yeah. Yes. It's a telenovela.

[00:34:01] Telenovela. Yeah. We got to speak Spanish. Dos un poco. Dos un poco. Es el genitorio. Yes. Genitorio. Okay. Genitorio. All right, everybody. Hey, have a nice answer. Have a nice answer. I will not defend anybody who chooses violence. You can think it, but don't act it. Act it, baby. If you need to act it, be in a play.

[00:34:31] Everybody have a good day out there. Can you tell us been a good day? We hope you enjoyed our telenovela. And we're gone. This is an audio telenovela. Audio. Okay. So episode one. Episode one. So hopefully we get the video up for next time for part two, but stay tuned for part two in a week or two. But this is pretty good. This, yeah. You're welcome. Melody one off. Good job. Because I can do all the other shit. This workplace is hard and it's fine. Good job. Bye, everybody. Love you. Love you.

[00:35:01] Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.

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